II PROCEEDINGS OF TEACH-IN

COOMBS:

Mr. Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen, I rise to support the Anguillan people in their latest revolt. I don’t think what the Prime Minister did when he went there was right. That we in Jamaica went into Federation without acquainting the people about it. The people rise against it. At least they had a Referendum here and it was shown that we never wanted federation. If we in Jamaica agree that we didn’t want federation and it was not the right thing for us, then the Anguillan people had the right to say they do not want other people to mix with them at the present time. So I agree. I think the Anguillan people have done what no other western government has done, or people, and we in Jamaica should support them to the hilt. And I am saying further that take the statement made by the Englishman who came here the other day, Mr. Shepherd. Now look what Ian Smith has done in Africa. The white man is only about one-sixth of the population of Rhodesia. Still yet, he rise and grab a government of his own and are ruling the vast majority of people. While on the other hand, the Anguillan people, although I have not been to Anguilla, they are one people and they do as they like while they don’t do any wrong among themselves, or among other people. And I think we in Jamaica, should rise up and see to it that the Government here recognize them. Let the Jamaica government first recognize them, and after they are recognized by the Jamaican government then other governments may have to follow. And then we could rush assistance if necessary to the Anguillan people. The last word I am saying and it is a very important thing sir, is that we have fought hard both here and in Africa to get the white man out of our business. Personally I could have done a great job against the government in Jamaica already but I wouldn’t do it because I do not want the white man to come back in Jamaica. I allow that the mistakes that have been made here will rise up. Let us think the same thing of Anguilla and if we want to send men or money we should start to collect some money right here, in this audience tonight for Anguilla, and then we will be showing the right spirit.

CUMMINGS:

There are three things I would like to deal with, and I will do so very briefly. First of all, our Anguillan comrade to the right here, Mr. Gumbs, mentioned the fact that Anguilla will do with things like teachers, but I remember also that he mentioned specifically graduate teachers. I begin to wonder then if he is discriminating or if the Anguillans are discriminating against undergraduate teachers. That’s a point to be discussed. The next thing is, he mentioned also technical knowledge. I want to ask ourselves if it is technical knowledge alone that they will need, or will they do with other things among them such as I will be able to offer. But now the very last thing now Sir, please……A gentleman from the audience mentioned earlier on that if Jamaica is to recognize Anguilla or to give Anguilla support, Anguilla must submit itself to Jamaica’s advice on its constitution or the shaping of its constitution. Well excuse me if I misunderstand. I would like some further light thrown upon that. I am submitting that that will be an imperious act on the part of Jamaica.

BECKFORD:

No such thing was suggested here and I don’t agree with that.

CUMMINGS:

What he talked about Sir, is the matter that Jamaica has accepted a certain kind of Parliamentary operation and except Anguilla accepts something like tha,t then Jamaica cannot – that’s what he said. That’s what I gathered from it. I am questioning that.

GUMBS:

I would like to qualify the teaching problem. When I said graduate teachers, I should have said trained teachers. And you spoke about technical help. I don’t believe that only the United States can offer a Peace Corps. Why can’t we here in the Caribbean, why can’t we get together, why do we have to send a war corps?

We need a peace corps. Why can’t we get together in the Commonwealth and start talking about a peace corps. Maybe this is more necessary in St. Kitts than it is in Anguilla. But yet we have to start somewhere. There is something that I failed to mention, that would be really helpful in Anguilla at this time. We all share the same judicial system in the Islands. I do not know if it goes for Jamaica, but this is something that would be really helpful in Anguilla at this time … the judicial system or someone who would like to help in setting up the judicial system.

BEAUBRUN:

I want to direct two questions. The problem which exists now in Anguilla is a symptom which can affect any one of the smaller territories, and I would like to suggest to Mr. Gumbs and Mr. Rey quite sincerely that the solution to their problem lies (1) politically in the economic union of the Leeward and Windward Islands, in which Anguilla will enter as a separate state and not as a state of St. Kitts/ Nevis/ Anguilla. I can give an example. The recent decision by the Associate State Court of Appeal to which Mr. Gumbs has recently just made reference is a Court of Appeal which is constituted by all the various Associated States together with St. Vincent and Montserrat. (2) In my opinion, the economic development of the Windward and Leeward Islands go hand in hand. Take the banana industry for example. If the various Windward Islands had been separate units, they would not have had the force with the banana industry that they had. And secondly, if you take the Windward and Leeward Islands as one unit and you realize that if distance wise it is almost the same as one point of Jamaica to another, the solution to the tourist industry in these Islands lies in the development of the tourist industry as a whole and not as one and separate individual Islands.